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what happens the day after assad leaves? he's going to go feet first was going to leave on his own, but he's going to go. after he goes, we need a plan to make sure there's a follow-on force. learn from republican mistakes in iraq. we didn't have enough troops. i told president bush renewed 180,000 troops to secure this place the person who said that was fired. he happened to be read. i'm here to say we don't have a follow-on force quickly to get involved after assad this will be all to pay in the region. if the president believes we need to use force to secure the chemical weapons were stop them from being utilized to kill thousands more, we stand with them and i'm willing to do resolution on the floor of the senate, seeking congressional authorization to protect us against assad using chemical weapons against his own people and protecting us that it was necessary to military force. final thought, you can see this coming for a very long time. leading from behind is not working. saying you could do in iraq with a light footp
what happens the day after assad leaves? he's going to go feet first was going to leave on his own, but he's going to go. after he goes, we need a plan to make sure there's a follow-on force. learn from republican mistakes in iraq. we didn't have enough troops. i told president bush renewed 180,000 troops to secure this place the person who said that was fired. he happened to be read. i'm here to say we don't have a follow-on force quickly to get involved after assad this will be all to pay in...
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we also don't know at what point would the assad regime re-sort to using sarin. it's my hypothesis that they will if they start getting slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people at risk in areas where assad regime might use them r or could use them or some other group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something you can do? >> they don't have access to medications, the at row peen for for example. you have to goit of the area, which sounds simplistic. because it's odorless and tasteless and hard to detect, you have to get out of the area. you can get poisoned by ingestion and inhaling and touching it. it can be on your clothes, for example. you get out of the way and take off your clothes or anything exposed to it. soap and water and try to rinse your body. it's a heavier gas as compared to what else is in the area, so it lingers closer to the ground. getting to higher elevation can help. these sound like simplistic things but short of a medication given right away, there's not much else to do. >> it's really scary stuff
we also don't know at what point would the assad regime re-sort to using sarin. it's my hypothesis that they will if they start getting slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people at risk in areas where assad regime might use them r or could use them or some other group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something you can do? >> they don't have access to medications, the at row peen for for example. you have to goit of the area, which sounds...
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now says it will intervene if assad uses chemical weapons but does this remind you of iraq or both two thousand and three will take a look at the similarities in these cases and ask if intervention is inevitable. and backed by congressional demand but against white house objections stricter sanctions on iran as part of the revamped and v.a. bill coming up a look at what these new measures and tale and whether they really are nonviolent. it's monday december third four pm in washington d.c. i'm christine for you're watching our tape while much of the mainstream media cycles last week were mired in chatter about u.n. ambassador susan rice and the possibility she may be considered to take over as secretary of state once hillary clinton leaves her post and most of what you probably heard sounded something like this. we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't yet bottom line and more disturbed now than i was before we will not allow a brilliant public servant record to be mug to cut off her her consideration to become secretary of state the repu
now says it will intervene if assad uses chemical weapons but does this remind you of iraq or both two thousand and three will take a look at the similarities in these cases and ask if intervention is inevitable. and backed by congressional demand but against white house objections stricter sanctions on iran as part of the revamped and v.a. bill coming up a look at what these new measures and tale and whether they really are nonviolent. it's monday december third four pm in washington d.c. i'm...
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we also don't know at what point would the assad regime resort the using sarin. it's my hypothesis they will if they're starting to get slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people who are at risk, i mean in areas where the assad regime could or might use them or another group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something to do to prepro tekt yourself? >> they presumably don't have access to the medication. you have to get out of the area but keep in mind this -- because it's odorless and tasteless and very hard to detect, you have to get out of area and also because you can get poisoned again by ingestion and inhaling or simply touching it, it can be on the clothes, the clothes could be a vehicle so you get out of the way. you take off your clothes or anything that may have been exposed to it, soap and water, rinse your body as much as also. one thing is it's a heavier gas compared to that what's in that area and lingers closer to the ground and getting to higher elevation can help. it sounds simplistic but short of a medic
we also don't know at what point would the assad regime resort the using sarin. it's my hypothesis they will if they're starting to get slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people who are at risk, i mean in areas where the assad regime could or might use them or another group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something to do to prepro tekt yourself? >> they presumably don't have access to the medication. you have to get out of the area but...
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now says it will intervene if assad uses chemical weapons but does this remind you of iraq all of two thousand and three we'll take a look at the similarities in these cases and ask if intervention is inevitable. susan rice is still being dragged through the mud for her inaccurate statements on the benghazi attack all of this in the quest for the next secretary of state but given her history and more importantly her investment there's more to susan rice than meets the eye had on our t.v. sets the u.n. ambassador and waves the mainstream media is not. and backed by congressional demand but against white house objections stricter sanctions on iran as part of the revamped n.d.a. coming up we'll look at what these new measures entailed and whether they really are nonviolent. it's monday december third eight pm in washington d.c. i'm christine and you're watching our t.v. starting off this hour with the latest news out of syria there are reports that syrian president bashar al assad might be preparing to use chemical weapons in his war torn country but the united states and its western all
now says it will intervene if assad uses chemical weapons but does this remind you of iraq all of two thousand and three we'll take a look at the similarities in these cases and ask if intervention is inevitable. susan rice is still being dragged through the mud for her inaccurate statements on the benghazi attack all of this in the quest for the next secretary of state but given her history and more importantly her investment there's more to susan rice than meets the eye had on our t.v. sets...
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if anything, i think assad may be a prisoner of his security establishment. i don't think he will be pushed aside by his aides. >> when do the nato forces and nato troops come in? it has to happen. >> i don't think they're going to go in on the ground. i think we're going to see patriot missiles in turkey. we may see other help, intelligence assistance for the rebels. we're not going to see nato troops on the ground. >> it's going to be an interesting few weeks, i think. >>> let's move quickly to egypt. a lot of difficult scenarios there developing, with president morsi, apparently, showing a few traits of mubarak, with the executive orders he's giving himself. did he need to do this? and what is the fallout going to be here? the big protests all through cairo are the eruptions in egypt. >> he blew it. first of all, the grab for power from the judges. he compounded that today, by allowing his people, the muslim brotherhood to go out and crack heads. several people appear to have been killed. he's made things worse for himself. but that said, this is the first
if anything, i think assad may be a prisoner of his security establishment. i don't think he will be pushed aside by his aides. >> when do the nato forces and nato troops come in? it has to happen. >> i don't think they're going to go in on the ground. i think we're going to see patriot missiles in turkey. we may see other help, intelligence assistance for the rebels. we're not going to see nato troops on the ground. >> it's going to be an interesting few weeks, i think....
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it is very difficult to read the assad government and find out exactly what they are doing. are they trying to protect them? are they trying to bluff? we have heard from certain officials saying they have no intention of using chemical weapons against their own people. of course, that leaves open the possibility that they might reserve the right to use them if they are attacked from abroad. it is important to mention this is not the first time that we hear the obama administration's aid that the use of chemical weapons by syria would be -- the obama administration say that the use of chemical weapons by syria would be a mistake. government were to fall, what might happen to those chemical weapons? >> that is a real concern. beyond worrying that the assad government might use them, there is concern about the collapse. there are various groups fighting. what will the rebels do? there is contact between the u.s. and the rebels on the ground, died in them as to how they should proceed -- guiding them as to how they should proceed, what to do about these weapons if they are in co
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bashar al-assad is a key link. efforts to support moderate forces opposing him within syria should be considered now and considered seriously. i have recently called for a more robust u.s. response to the crisis in syria. i believe that a political transition to a government that reflects the will of the syrian people is also in the core security interest of united states and the region. moreover, this change would align with our values of supporting the democratic process and the basic rights and freedom that should be enjoyed by all people, regardless of religion, ethnicity, or gender. over the course of the past 20 months, the aside regime has unleashed a barrage of unspeakable -- assad regime has unleashed a barrage of unspeakable terror across the country. more than 40,000 syrians have been killed, countless have been injured. refugees have surged into neighboring turkey, jordan, lebanon, and iraq, taxing the limits of those countries. assad's escalation of violence has reached a point where fighter jets have
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assad is the key link between the two of them. efforts to support moderate forces opposing him within syria should be considered now and considered seriously. i have recently called for a more robust u.s. response to the crisis in syria. i believe a political transition to a government that reflects the will of the syrian people is also the core national security interests of the united states in the region. moreover this change would align with our values supporting the democratic process, the basic rights and freedom that should be enjoyed by all people regardless of religion, ethnicity or gender. over the course of the last 20 months the assad regime has unleashed a barrage of unspeakable terror across the country with the sole aim of remaining in power. just hearing in the last couple days, more urgently about weapons of mass destruction and what that could mean. more than 40,000 syrians have been killed, cal was have been injured. refugees surged into neighboring turkey, jordan, lebanon and iraq taxing the limits of those cou
assad is the key link between the two of them. efforts to support moderate forces opposing him within syria should be considered now and considered seriously. i have recently called for a more robust u.s. response to the crisis in syria. i believe a political transition to a government that reflects the will of the syrian people is also the core national security interests of the united states in the region. moreover this change would align with our values supporting the democratic process, the...
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war torn country both the united states and its western allies have warned the syrian government that assad will quote be held accountable if his forces use those weapons against the rebels fighting his government this is also the story being told to the american people that syria's stockpile of chemical weapons is dangerous and could be deadly does this sound familiar well if so it could be because you heard very similar talk a decade ago in the lead up to war with iraq. the danger to our country is growing. iraqi regime possesses biological. and chemical weapons weapons of mass destruction weapons of mass destruction weapons of mass destruction every statement i make today is backed up by sources solid sources these are not assertions we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence a lot of questioning on solid intelligence is regarded today as one of the biggest media fails in history and yet there is a possibility we are seeing something very similar with syria that this alleged movement of chemical weapons could mean the west can and should get involved this was
war torn country both the united states and its western allies have warned the syrian government that assad will quote be held accountable if his forces use those weapons against the rebels fighting his government this is also the story being told to the american people that syria's stockpile of chemical weapons is dangerous and could be deadly does this sound familiar well if so it could be because you heard very similar talk a decade ago in the lead up to war with iraq. the danger to our...
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do you believe that assad would do it? >> yes, i believe he would do it because he is desperate and i think he believes the international community will not do anything. he has been protected by moscow and beijing. the west has stood on the side lines and we have given a veto to the sponsors of the assad regime. he thinks he can get away with it. he believes he's lost anyway because the civil war engulfed his regime and the rebels have been on the march the last several months. >> we'll be right back with red light cameras. are they legal? citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. ♪ [ male announcer ] campbell's green bean casserole. it's amazing what soup can do megyn: a major class action lawsuit over red light cameras. this new lawsuit alleges cameras are actually rigged to booths payoff for the ticket collectors. trace gallagher has more on that. >> reporter: it's a cash cow for new york city. $293 million in the past five years alon
do you believe that assad would do it? >> yes, i believe he would do it because he is desperate and i think he believes the international community will not do anything. he has been protected by moscow and beijing. the west has stood on the side lines and we have given a veto to the sponsors of the assad regime. he thinks he can get away with it. he believes he's lost anyway because the civil war engulfed his regime and the rebels have been on the march the last several months. >>...
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head bandages, a voice says, this is the fate of your pilots, assad. this is not an isolated incident. in the same vicinity close to the city in a span of 24 hours rebels claim they not only brought down this fighter jet, but also, two helicopters. video posted to youtube shows a trail of smoke and a helicopter bursting in to flames but there's no way for us to confirm when and where this happened. these dramatic developments are a result of a pitched battle fought here at the 46 regiment base just over a week ago. for nearly two months hassan tells us they laid siege to the base after clearing the villages around it of assad's forces and positioning rebel snipers in the area. the final battle to take this massive base lasted 24 hours chls rebel fighters used artillery captured of another unit on the base firing in it to the building and ending the battle. for this rebel unit, there was a treasure trove of weaponry and most important of all, anti-aircraft missiles, hurgss of them. though not all functioning the fighters tell us. video posted to youtube
head bandages, a voice says, this is the fate of your pilots, assad. this is not an isolated incident. in the same vicinity close to the city in a span of 24 hours rebels claim they not only brought down this fighter jet, but also, two helicopters. video posted to youtube shows a trail of smoke and a helicopter bursting in to flames but there's no way for us to confirm when and where this happened. these dramatic developments are a result of a pitched battle fought here at the 46 regiment base...
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they publicly denied that assad would use weapons on his own people. raising the question with his departure has the assad policy changed? bret? >> connor powell in the middle east newsroom. thanks. more on this with the panel. now a standoff of a different type. back at home. the fiscal kind. house republicans leaders calling this a bold counteroffer. that presents a fair, middle ground. the white house is saying it has nothing new with no details. it is a republican compromise solution to the impending fiscal cliff. spending cut and tax increases that both sides mean would mean recession. after what both sides called a frustrating weekend. today's development don't appear to break a log jam. not yet. ed henry begins our coverage. >> reporter: good evening. they are saying the plan is ridiculous, so much so they will not offer counterproposal to the g.o.p. counterproposal and say tonight unless speaker boehner gives in on raising taxes on the rich, the president is ready to go off the cliff. >> right now i'd say we are nowhere, period. nowhere. >> joh
they publicly denied that assad would use weapons on his own people. raising the question with his departure has the assad policy changed? bret? >> connor powell in the middle east newsroom. thanks. more on this with the panel. now a standoff of a different type. back at home. the fiscal kind. house republicans leaders calling this a bold counteroffer. that presents a fair, middle ground. the white house is saying it has nothing new with no details. it is a republican compromise solution...
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japanese officials say the aim is to get assad to stop the violence against his own people. delegates from more than 60 countries are attended the conference. they include representatives from the gulf region and the west. it's the first meeting of its kind in asia. a spokesperson for the syrian national coalition talked to nhk in egypt ahead of the conference. it was called for nations to work together. >> we need more than that. we have two ways. putting pressure on russia, china and iran to stop supporting this regime and that's what will be useful or supporting military. or make free zone and no fly zone. >> the japanese government has frozen assets held in japan by assad. it took the action last year. >>> a court in south korea is dealing with a legal matter. it's will decide whether to extradite a chinese national to japan for starting a fire. the site honors japan's war dead including war criminals. tokyo police suspect a fire was set to the gate last december. he already served a ten month pri prison term for throwing four fire bombs at the embassy. officials in chin
japanese officials say the aim is to get assad to stop the violence against his own people. delegates from more than 60 countries are attended the conference. they include representatives from the gulf region and the west. it's the first meeting of its kind in asia. a spokesperson for the syrian national coalition talked to nhk in egypt ahead of the conference. it was called for nations to work together. >> we need more than that. we have two ways. putting pressure on russia, china and...
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regime now if all assad goes dare say that there will still be countless supporters of all assad and helped countless supporters of his regime and there will probably be massive bloodletting on both sides and that's what the international community is basically pushing itself towards right now i want to just briefly does the implications of what happens could happen inside syria what are the implications for the region as a whole well there is a continued growth of the so-called office trend that emerges from saudi arabia these religious conservative radicals who have in the first place a particular animosity towards women and it seems to me that whatever happens in syria internally this trend will continue to proliferated not least because there's not sufficient pressure on the saudi regime to stop it paint a grim picture it's very interesting to hear what you say thank you very much indeed live from new york author and historian general whom we appreciate you being on thank you. well there are reports of injuries in the egyptian capital karo where the present protesters have clashe
regime now if all assad goes dare say that there will still be countless supporters of all assad and helped countless supporters of his regime and there will probably be massive bloodletting on both sides and that's what the international community is basically pushing itself towards right now i want to just briefly does the implications of what happens could happen inside syria what are the implications for the region as a whole well there is a continued growth of the so-called office trend...
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military is making contingency plans should the syrian president bashar assad meet with the u.s. sources saying that they are aware that assad has received numerous asylum officers at the same time the united states has the quarter he deployed the u.s. eyes and. start strike group which went through the suez canal from the persian gulf over the weekend and we understand according to reports that it is making its way to the syrian coast and it has been throughout this week now what this does indicate this latest development is that the united states now stands ready for direct military intervention in the syrian conflict so that is what we're hearing from various sources and various commentators who have been following the story closely there is at the same time some evidence emerging that rebel fighters might be allegedly planning some kind of chemical attack on syrian president bashar assad's supporters there is a video that has been posted online on thursday now it does show what is thought to be a rebel fighter feeding a chemical weaponry to rabbits and within a minute those r
military is making contingency plans should the syrian president bashar assad meet with the u.s. sources saying that they are aware that assad has received numerous asylum officers at the same time the united states has the quarter he deployed the u.s. eyes and. start strike group which went through the suez canal from the persian gulf over the weekend and we understand according to reports that it is making its way to the syrian coast and it has been throughout this week now what this does...
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what is going to take make outside bandeau -- to make assad go. are they any closer to that moment? >> it has been hard to get a sense of that because of the lack of the visas. the strain of the war on the government buildings, there are signs of bomb damage. lots of roads are closed. traffic is fine award check points. only a few roads are available. and going out of the city into the suburban areas that are held by the free syrian army. what you can see is a deterioration in the position of the regime and the strain of war as well. will that result in and trying to somehow do a deal? i do not know. but i know that a political deal is the only real choice the syrians have. if they do not get that, they face a long and bloody war. >> today, we have the american and russian foreign ministers meeting with the u.n. envoy to syria at a conference in ireland. russia has been a key player. do you understand whether the russians are getting closer to a western position when it comes to assad's future? >> if they are common their remarks from the meeting did not seem to suggest that they we
what is going to take make outside bandeau -- to make assad go. are they any closer to that moment? >> it has been hard to get a sense of that because of the lack of the visas. the strain of the war on the government buildings, there are signs of bomb damage. lots of roads are closed. traffic is fine award check points. only a few roads are available. and going out of the city into the suburban areas that are held by the free syrian army. what you can see is a deterioration in the...
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suppose assad would say i realize i am the problem, me personally. and i am also a patriot. not withstanding that i have done these awful things in my name on syrians have died and a country is destroyed. i'm going to allow a government here to negotiate and i'm leaving. he's unlikely to say that, if he says that. if he said that we will be in business completely. >> meetly so, why isn't the effort to say the russians get assad out pov we are. i think what they are saying. >> that is a nonstarter, isn't it. >> it is shall did -- it is not our business to replace governments. >> that is fair. and that is from my point of view. >> they have their own reason to ynt want to say that. >> even, from my point of view it is good. we don't want people going and changing governments and so on. but what i tell everybody who talk os to bash har is it is your duty to share with him your analysis. if you agree with me that change is indispensable you've got to tell him and this is not interverns this is what i tell him. when i talk to him, extremely politably, set president of a country t
suppose assad would say i realize i am the problem, me personally. and i am also a patriot. not withstanding that i have done these awful things in my name on syrians have died and a country is destroyed. i'm going to allow a government here to negotiate and i'm leaving. he's unlikely to say that, if he says that. if he said that we will be in business completely. >> meetly so, why isn't the effort to say the russians get assad out pov we are. i think what they are saying. >> that...
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certainly the message is clear it's a direct threat by the rebels to kill the syrian president bashar assad. right policy r.t. correspondent thank you for that. germany and israel have agreed to disagree over the issue of jewish settlements on palestinian land that's the soft stance of chancellor merkel who stopped short of condemning israeli actions actions which have led to her european partners furious israel is facing increasing isolation on the continent after it announced plans to build three thousand new homes on the occupied palestinian territory germany initially criticized or made by just didn't join other e.u. states who called in israeli ambassadors to condemn it relations between the two have been especially tense after germany abstained from a u.n. vote which upgraded palestine's status in the organization can join in lives the money well alter the writer says israel is used to going unpunished for its provocative actions. in the last week we see that it's really really. i don't know how many. were. already sections that you threw or written we can see it's really really. almo
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the big question is, will president assad stay and fight? will he seek asylum? >>jonathan: the turks and russians, they are saying they are working on what they call "new ideas to bring an end to the ongoing 20--month-old civil war." they have nut given any ideas or details what those ideas might be but it will revolve around whether president assad has decided he going to live and die in syria and die most likely at the hands of the rebels or whether he can be persuaded to say asylum but that has the u.n. secretary-general having misgivings giving a man who has murdered 40,000 of his own people to give him retirement in a safe and friendly country. >> the united nations must not allow any impunity after gross violation of human rights. he must be held accountable and brought to justice>>jonathan: tf the argument is that any kind of solution that would persuade assad to stand down and end the slaughter of all of those syrian civilians might, actually, be worth considering. >>trace: what do we know of the reports that rebels are trying to get their act together i
the big question is, will president assad stay and fight? will he seek asylum? >>jonathan: the turks and russians, they are saying they are working on what they call "new ideas to bring an end to the ongoing 20--month-old civil war." they have nut given any ideas or details what those ideas might be but it will revolve around whether president assad has decided he going to live and die in syria and die most likely at the hands of the rebels or whether he can be persuaded to say...
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will assad do this as a last hoorah. and what will america do if it comes to it? >> i don't think we're being duped by the administration. there's a difference from 2003 in iraq. and the bush administration was eager to go into iraq. these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them out. it's hard to see how they advance his cause. >> assad would face complete obliteration if he does this. and some say he wants asylum in venezuela or whatever. he's not a stupid man. why would he risk the wrath of the world ascending on him? >> it's hard to see how this advances his cause, except as part of the negotiation. if you're trying to get a better deal for your family, then, maybe it's useful. >> would this create an internal coup, with his background? i don't know how sane he is or not, and what he's done. he's killing his own people. he's butchering his own people.
will assad do this as a last hoorah. and what will america do if it comes to it? >> i don't think we're being duped by the administration. there's a difference from 2003 in iraq. and the bush administration was eager to go into iraq. these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them...
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i don't see that the assad regime. will likely use the chemical weapons against his people and how however when it comes to the jihadists attacking him. in the last moments you never know what can happen again you have this but it's important to mention a vital issue here there's you have this are even more dangerous if we got these chemical weapons in their head so if you are told that the assad regime may use this chemical weapons of possibility that the jihadist will use it again of their opponents will be much much more that you have this have no problem to be had people alive you deal with people like bin ladin and there are because of al qaida who have no hesitation to use any form of whip around to really control any place. religious believes and ideology. there's a very tasty pine baking away in asia but still a nice way to confound staff life and later in the program the energy hungry powerhouses india and china are struggling to share our resources with the drones already circling the lucrative. the stunning
i don't see that the assad regime. will likely use the chemical weapons against his people and how however when it comes to the jihadists attacking him. in the last moments you never know what can happen again you have this but it's important to mention a vital issue here there's you have this are even more dangerous if we got these chemical weapons in their head so if you are told that the assad regime may use this chemical weapons of possibility that the jihadist will use it again of their...
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utterly stupid for assad to attack turkey in that way so why are we doing these things that look like they aren't connected to reality unless reality is we're preparing the ground to intervene in syria and what would be the implications if the u.s. were to intervene in syria at some saying the fallout would be far more dramatic than what we saw in iraq would you agree with that. i think that if we were to intervene in a substantial way that is to say we were to put troops on the ground marines soldiers and so forth and we were to do in syria what we began to do in march of two thousand and three in iraq those people are absolutely right in fact i think it would be even worse than iraq i think also that it would be again a back door as a war into iran which is the as you well know the real threat that we've been putting out there for years now and i think we're looking at syria and iran being a combination that we would then take on and you're talking about in my view a conflict that becomes regional and maybe even wider because we've got russia we've got china we've got other players
utterly stupid for assad to attack turkey in that way so why are we doing these things that look like they aren't connected to reality unless reality is we're preparing the ground to intervene in syria and what would be the implications if the u.s. were to intervene in syria at some saying the fallout would be far more dramatic than what we saw in iraq would you agree with that. i think that if we were to intervene in a substantial way that is to say we were to put troops on the ground marines...
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military is making contingency plans should the syrian president bashar assad suddenly leave with the u.s. sources saying that they are aware that assad has received numerous asylum offers at the same time the united states has reportedly deployed the u.s. eisenhower's start strike group which went through the suez canal from the persian gulf over the weekend and we understand according to reports that it is making its way to the syrian coast and it has been throughout this week now on board all eight fighter bomber squadrons of the seven at the same time there are eight thousand sailors airmen and marines and joins the u.s. i were just after amphibious ready group which already carries some two and a half thousand marines now what this does indicate this latest development is that the united states now stands ready for direct military intervention in the syrian conflict certainly that is what we're hearing from various sources and various commentators who have been following the story closely what it also indicates is that increasingly we are hearing from all quarters on the global c
military is making contingency plans should the syrian president bashar assad suddenly leave with the u.s. sources saying that they are aware that assad has received numerous asylum offers at the same time the united states has reportedly deployed the u.s. eisenhower's start strike group which went through the suez canal from the persian gulf over the weekend and we understand according to reports that it is making its way to the syrian coast and it has been throughout this week now on board...
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carefully it is more in tandem with the assad regime so that's a tension in itself and and given the fact that the second group was not invited to the newly built established syrian national coalition ok that that will prove tension in the future so i think you know they may be after some sort of autonomy or federalism but there is no there is no consensus within the syrian opposition groups actually they are they are against it as far as i understand at the moment so so we are looking for some sort of our tense situation as in maybe as in iraq between syrian kurds and syrian arab ok edward if i could go back to you it looks like the turks have really shot herself in the foot here i mean because kurds are part of the opposition in syria as well. it peter you ask a very interesting question and because that's really the party here with the most to lose you spoke about the kurds winning so we should keep in mind the party here we have. turkey. right to highlight this. turkey obviously looks at the kurdish problem with a great deal of anxiety and one could even ask oneself why ankara wo
carefully it is more in tandem with the assad regime so that's a tension in itself and and given the fact that the second group was not invited to the newly built established syrian national coalition ok that that will prove tension in the future so i think you know they may be after some sort of autonomy or federalism but there is no there is no consensus within the syrian opposition groups actually they are they are against it as far as i understand at the moment so so we are looking for some...
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united lost a rebel drawing president assad in dismissing washington's chemical weapons he is there's the media again while u.s. invasion fleet poised on syria's borders. around one step forward one step by just as the american senate's launches a cold war era long live it break it up or is it these are by no seven russian officials provoking a promise of a similar move. this is all she coming to live from moscow hello and welcome to the program along anticipated state address by egypt's president morsi has failed to silence the angry voices on the streets of cairo protesters claim his still ignores their key demands by evolving to push on with a referendum on an islamist led constitution more on that from cairo based reporter true now. president mohamed morsi basically stuck by his decisions he said in his speech he said this consulate curation which was very contentious very people described it as a power grab was essential basically in the transition period to democracy and very important protecting the constituent assembly which drafted the constitution to the we get to this point
united lost a rebel drawing president assad in dismissing washington's chemical weapons he is there's the media again while u.s. invasion fleet poised on syria's borders. around one step forward one step by just as the american senate's launches a cold war era long live it break it up or is it these are by no seven russian officials provoking a promise of a similar move. this is all she coming to live from moscow hello and welcome to the program along anticipated state address by egypt's...
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could assad hang on for a few more months? >> it's very hard to say having said multiple insurgencies usually on the receiving end from vietnam to the middle east. it's hard to say--its easier to say when you have momentum. right now the resistence has momentum. how soon can that lead to the fall of sigh began saigon and that kind of thing. we're heading that way. the danger to avoid that, not only assad, but his adviser from the iranian force i've been on the receiving end of his actions in iraq, he's willing and capable of doing anything to preserve that regime. >> one last thing, even after the regime falls chemical weapons are not over. what you're afraid of is some of these extremist forces getting their hand on them, that will be a very difficult challenge for the united states. >> eliot: what leverage would we have after assumeing that assad falls, not only hope but we predict in the future, will we have the ability to deal with the insurgent forces. james jeffrey and joe cirincione thank you for joining me tonight. >>
could assad hang on for a few more months? >> it's very hard to say having said multiple insurgencies usually on the receiving end from vietnam to the middle east. it's hard to say--its easier to say when you have momentum. right now the resistence has momentum. how soon can that lead to the fall of sigh began saigon and that kind of thing. we're heading that way. the danger to avoid that, not only assad, but his adviser from the iranian force i've been on the receiving end of his actions...
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what is going to take make outside bandeau -- to make assad go. are they any closer to that moment? >> it has been hard to get a sense of that because of the lack of the visas. the strain of the war on the government buildings, there are signs of bomb damage. lots of roads are closed. traffic is fine award check points. only a few roads are available. and going out of the city into the suburban areas that are held by the free syrian army. what you can see is a deterioration in the position of the regime and the strain of war as well. will that result in and trying to somehow do a deal? i do not know. but i know that a political deal is the only real choice the syrians have. if they do not get that, they face a long and bloody war. >> today, we have the american and russian foreign ministers meeting with the u.n. envoy to syria at a conference in ireland. russia has been a key player. do you understand whether the russians are getting closer to a western position when it comes to assad's future? >> if they are common their remarks from the meeting did not seem to suggest that they we
what is going to take make outside bandeau -- to make assad go. are they any closer to that moment? >> it has been hard to get a sense of that because of the lack of the visas. the strain of the war on the government buildings, there are signs of bomb damage. lots of roads are closed. traffic is fine award check points. only a few roads are available. and going out of the city into the suburban areas that are held by the free syrian army. what you can see is a deterioration in the...
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going to telegraph in any specifics what we are would do in the event of credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people, but suffice it to say, we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> and while washington buzzes over this video tribute to clinton, some are asking is it a farewell to the secretary or prelude to 2016? honoring the icons. politics meets hollywood. a tribute to the arts. president obama finds a way to salute an eclectic group of honor honorees. >> we've got my guy sitting next to dustin hoffman. dave letterman alongside one of the greatest ballerinas of all time. i couldn't think dave dances. there's no smooth transition from ballerina to led skep lin. they redefine the rock and roll lifestyle. we do not have video of this. there was some hotel rooms trashed and mayhem all around. so it's fitting that we're doing this in a room with windows about three inches thick. >> and oh baby, the palace makes it official, there was a reason she's been toasting with water, not wine. the duke a
going to telegraph in any specifics what we are would do in the event of credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people, but suffice it to say, we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> and while washington buzzes over this video tribute to clinton, some are asking is it a farewell to the secretary or prelude to 2016? honoring the icons. politics meets hollywood. a tribute to the arts. president...
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the russian influence on assad is real but limited. there is another country which has more influence on assad and it is iran. the real dilemma for the russians would be if we say, okay, let's have this negotiation. let's have russia disabled but iran should be excluded. assad says, well, i am willing to be a part of the negotiations but not without iran. to accept the exclusion of iran would be a difficult concession for putin. my impression is that it is not quite there yet. >> woodruff: given that, again steve heydemann, how is the west looking at all this? >> it's happening very quickly. it's a matter of enormous concern. if the regime were to collapse in the absence of a political settlement, the potential for increased violence, the possibility that the opposition now is taking shape entirely is not yet ready to govern is seen as a very serious consideration in washington. however, the question of whether it would be possible for the u.s., for example, to accept a negotiated process in which assad himself were permitted to escape
the russian influence on assad is real but limited. there is another country which has more influence on assad and it is iran. the real dilemma for the russians would be if we say, okay, let's have this negotiation. let's have russia disabled but iran should be excluded. assad says, well, i am willing to be a part of the negotiations but not without iran. to accept the exclusion of iran would be a difficult concession for putin. my impression is that it is not quite there yet. >>...
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is there an exit strategy for assad? though the u.n. secretary of general said yesterday the world should not let him seek asylum senator kerry told andrea mitchell he disagrees. >> it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly because the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed. >> if syria crosses the red line in chemical weapons what will the u.s. do? middle east expert jeffrey goldberg joins us on the escalating violence across the region in a scoop that some people missed that he had. we'll expose it here. plus an msnbc news exclusive. afghan president hamid karzai blames the u.s. and nato forces for what he says is growing insecurity in his country. what he told our own reporter about the future of the relationship between the two countries and he weighs in on the petraeus scandal. we'll be live in kabul next. but first a look ahead at the president's schedule. we have a photo op today on the fiscal cliff. he heads over to fa
is there an exit strategy for assad? though the u.n. secretary of general said yesterday the world should not let him seek asylum senator kerry told andrea mitchell he disagrees. >> it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly because the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed. >> if syria crosses the red line in chemical weapons what will the u.s. do? middle east expert...
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you've actually met president assad. tell me your impression. >> on our way to iraq we had to go -- we were asked to go and stop by to see assad. this was right after, maybe six months after president obama was elected. the whole purpose was to get assad who had the relationship with iran to work with iran to bring them into the tent so that we could work on the palestine israeli issue. we were working at that time with egypt and also with jordan. well, one of the first things he said, america i, your president said i'm the axis of evil. another sheriff. we had another conversation. he thought that was the case. his personality was such that he was low key. we talked for a long period of time. we had to say we had to go. i said to him look. you're in a position to do something in the world, to bring peace. your father is dead, your brother was killed however he was killed, and now you have that relationship. we then talked about helping his people, how this could help his people to bring peace to the area if we could bri
you've actually met president assad. tell me your impression. >> on our way to iraq we had to go -- we were asked to go and stop by to see assad. this was right after, maybe six months after president obama was elected. the whole purpose was to get assad who had the relationship with iran to work with iran to bring them into the tent so that we could work on the palestine israeli issue. we were working at that time with egypt and also with jordan. well, one of the first things he said,...